Kim Kardashian picked her moment on sister Khloe’s podcast to dish every bit of chaos and drama swirling around her.
The 45-year-old mogul appeared on the latest episode of Khloe in Wonderland, getting candid about everything from her daughter North West’s fashion and piercing choices to her rocky relationship with ex Kanye West – and even the secrets behind her real hair.
Things got even spicier when Kim finally tackled her feud with Taylor Swift.
The drama goes way back to 2016, when West’s song Famous dropped and Kim leaked edited phone calls that made Swift look like a liar – sparking snake emojis, fan rage and fueling the Reputation album.
After being named TIME’s Person of the Year in 2023, Swift threw shade at Kim, claiming she ‘took her down psychologically’ and forced her into hiding, sending the feud back into headlines.
With the Swift feud hanging in the air, Khloe asked the question everyone was waiting for: ‘Do you think people would be surprised you listen to Taylor Swift?’
Kim Kardashian speaks on the latest episode of sister Khloe’s podcast, spilling on everything from daughter North’s fashion and piercings to her rocky split with Kanye West and even the secrets behind her real hair
Things got even spicier when Kim finally tackled her feud with Taylor Swift
Kim replied, ‘I think I’ve said it.’
Khloe chimed in, ‘I think people would be surprised.’
‘Yeah, it’s just… I have some of her older songs in my playlist,’ Kim admitted. ‘I’ve always thought she’s a super talented, great artist.’
And just like that, Swift was off the table, as Khloe quickly pivoted: ‘So… do you like country music?’
Kim lit up: ‘I love country music! I’ll always be a Shania Twain girl. I love Carrie Underwood. And Lee Ann Rimes – obsessed.’
Speaking about her eldest daughter, Kim slipped into full super-mom mode.
North, twelve, has faced online chatter over everything from bright blue hair and visible piercings to flaunting a diamond mouth grill and luxury goodies on her short-lived Instagram account.
Critics have even questioned whether her piercings are real or just glue-on versions – the tween first revealed a dermal piercing on her middle finger last August, two small silver balls below the knuckle.
With the Swift feud hanging in the air, Khloe asked the question everyone was waiting for: ‘Do you think people would be surprised you listen to Taylor Swift?’
‘Yeah, it’s just… I have some of her older songs in my playlist,’ Kim admitted, adding, ‘ I’ve always thought she’s a super talented, great artist’
But behind the scenes, Kim insists she is still firmly in charge.
‘I try not to pay attention to it, but I think that no one knows unless they’re in my shoes of what I’m dealing with and how we have to manage certain things from the outside world or even close in our life that we have to go through together,’ she told Khloe.
‘So, I think like the one misconception that people might have is like, “Oh, she’s trying to be her bestie and lets her get away with a lot.'”
‘Like, no. North actually has a lot of rules. The one area is I do let her express herself and I do let her do that. I love her for that and she would do it, you know, regardless.
‘It’s funny like people are like, “Oh, this blue hair, all of this all of a sudden or like her fake piercings that she puts up or her, you know, I have pictures of her when we’re in first grade, pre-K, where she’d come with like a fake septum ring and she has her green braids and she has pink braids and but she’s always loved the colored braids in her hair since she was little.
‘Like she really is who she is and always has been that girl unapologetically and so like I nurture her!’
Khloe then noted that Kim and Kanye, who finalized their divorce in 2022 after a tumultuous marriage, have started to ‘bond’ again thanks to North’s budding interest in producing.
While they co-parent daughters North and Chicago, eight, and sons Saint, 9, and Psalm six, the couple has had plenty of ups and downs post-marriage – but things appear to be improving.
Kim slipped into full super-mom mode over her eldest daughter North, who’s faced online chatter for everything from bright blue hair and visible piercings to a diamond grill and luxury accessories on her short-lived Instagram, including a dermal piercing on her middle finger revealed last August
Kim said, ‘North actually has a lot of rules. The one area is I do let her express herself and I do let her do that. I love her for that and she would do it, you know, regardless’
Kim added of her 12-year-old daughter, ”Like she really is who she is and always has been that girl unapologetically and so like I nurture her!’
‘You guys are in a much better place,’ Khloe observed.
Kim agreed, saying, ‘I’m a really empathetic person. I mean, at the end of the day, we’re always family. I always look at it that way, no matter what’s going on.
‘There are times when I have to be super protective and there are times when, you know, at any moment, I would love that relationship. And I’ve always talked about that.
‘The music side and the producing isn’t my thing. And that’s her bonding thing with her dad.
‘But even just like coming up with stuff, we have to communicate about how North moves through that world and all these opportunities that come her way and having to filter that and like respecting his opinion on the things that go on with his kids is really important.
‘So yeah, I think he’s so good at doing that. I think it’s important for the kids. You just kind of have to put all the other stuff aside.’
After opening up about co-parenting and her messy past with West, Kim shifted gears to her beauty secrets, revealing she injects stem cells into her scalp to boost hair growth and admitting she’ll do just about anything for beauty.
‘I’ll do like the stem cell injections in my scalp,’ she said. ‘Like everything to make sure that it’s as healthy as possible.’
Khloe then noted that Kim and Kanye, who finalized their divorce in 2022 after a tumultuous marriage, have started to ‘bond’ again, thanks to North’s budding interest in producing
Kim explained of her relationship with Kanye, ‘I mean, at the end of the day, we’re always family. I always look at it that way, no matter what’s going on’; (Kim with North and Chicago, eight, and sons Saint, nine, and Psalm six)
Khloe teased, ‘But you just love a beauty treatment.’
‘I love to experiment,’ Kim admitted.
Khloe followed up, ‘If you could only pick one beauty treatment for the rest of your life, do you have a favorite?’
Kim didn’t hesitate: ‘I mean Botox probably, or just like a really good facial.’
